Ordnance also inspected Photograph has been reversed to show the appearance of markings that would be produced by the fake stamps. The LOP measures 13 inches from the front of the trigger to the back of the buttplate. During the production of their type III stocks in 1945 Winchester changed If the sight is covering the name, you should be able to make out an 'S' on the left side, and maybe a 'D' or a '.' The top front of the receiver is marked U.S. A few of the manufacturers used subcontractors to manufacture their receivers. Ser. marked: JM, Amco, MMQ,J.M.Q. On the other hand, a detailed examination of a carbine is not always possible and the above parts can be looked at without even picking up the carbine from a gun show table. Documents found in the past have identified several prime contractors who assigned subsets of their serial numbers to their subcontractor(s). Read about the Saginaw (S.G.) carbines here: Serial number blocks assigned by the government. another state. Stocks made of Used early in production. American Black Walnut was the most common wood used. The barrel markings are well defined. There is insufficient data to determine if every serial number between the lows and highs was duplicated or if it was random. Saginaw marked the Grand Rapids factory M1 Carbines SG to differentiate them from the ones produced at the original Saginaw plant. Any opinions on how rare/popular collector is a Saginaw stamped M-1 Carbine? except stock which is Inland 1943. GENERAL MOTORS" It has been fitted with the adjustable sight, type 3 barrel band, and rotary safety sometime in the past before my family member acquiredit. Data collected There were 3 basic handguard styles for the carbines M1 & M2, with minor variations by manufacturers that often changed over time. We have a Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. numbers (i.e. C+B I.I.P. When the adjustable sights are removed and replaced by the correct vintage L type sight, these punch marks are often apparent and reveal the fact that a later sight was installed at one time. SOLD - Saginaw Gear M1 Carbine. It must be noted that a number of the prime contractors did not manufacture barrels and used those made by other firms. Box, Paperwork & Accessories:The rifle has a canvas sling attached. the machining of the wood below the recoil plate to provide better support. receiver. fire carbines like the M2's. The example on the bottom of the handgrip (below) shows the circled P in san serif within a 1/2 inch diameter circle over stamped with an Ordnance rebuild P. Carbines having been rebuilt more than once will sometimes have This is due to the fact that, except for extremely late production Winchester and Inland examples, WWII carbines will have several features in common. A very scarce WW2 Saginaw manufacture U.S. M1 Carbine .30 Caliber Semi-Auto rifle. WWII "Saginaw" M1 Carbine Converted to a Fully Automatic M2 ConfigurationThis is an example of an original WWII production M1 carbine as produced by the Saginaw Steering Gear Company, that was later converted and registered as a fully automatic M2 type carbine. Forgeries are a serious concern for collectors. on the right. The buttplate shows light scrapes & some discoloration along the edge. My IP is in the first serial block--1776xxx. Stay in the know. This is not to imply thatonlythese parts are important as every component should be closely scrutinized. The metal shows scrapes, scratches, and discoloration from oil residue and oxidation. The top front of the receiver is marked U.S. / 44. If you're looking for a high-value low-power variable optic that just plain performs, SIG Sauer has a great option at an affordable price with its Tango MSR LPVO scope. That S/N is a Saginaw Grand Rapids number. Box, Paperwork & Accessories:There is no magazine. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. Among the most sought after U.S. martial arms today are original, unaltered M1 carbines remaining in their as issued WWII factory configuration. The stock was cut to accommodate the selector switch located on the left side of the receiver. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, Specific M1 Carbine Contractor Discussions. There was no requirement as to using the serial numbers in order. of the barrel channel from approximately 3 3/16" to 4 1/16" to strengthen the wood in the area of the barrel band. None of the carbines produced by Irwin-Pedersen (IP) were accepted by Ordnance. due to a lack of original documentation. Barrel Date: March, 1943, Action Type:Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. Overall, the gun is in nice condition. This Irwin-Pedersen M1 Carbine uses almost all original Irwin-Pedersen parts that were made prior to Saginaw SG taking over. I'm guessing this indicates a Springfield Armory rebuild. Stock Configuration & Condition:The two piece hardwood stock has a pistol grip, Type IA barrel band with sling loop, sling well, sling pass through, and metal buttplate. General Motors Steering Gear Division. Saginaw M1 Carbine .30 Carbine Semi-Auto Rifle Blue Sky Import - C&R - 12500203. with Inlands war effort. Sights / Optics:The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. The Type I rear sight is marked with a partial S on the left which is consistent with Saginaw SG and others (page 29). There is no bayonet lug. Sapwood is pale yellow-gray to nearly white. The ebb and flow of mass production created parts surpluses and shortages for all the prime contractors, barrels included. It should be remembered, however, that the arsenal rebuild procedures did not always include reparkerizing the metal. Copyright 2012-document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) They made 7 of the parts including receivers, but no barrels, between May of '43 and Jan., of '44. A full parts list with their markings is included in the photographs. and/or carbine restoration businesses offer to include stamping the "correct" cartouche on the customer's carbine. Glad to hear it is staying with your family and hopefully they too will remain shark-free! the store. After WWII it was not uncommon for M1 Carbines to be converted to select I've got one with (JJ) in a circle , on the flipper, on a Winchester. As issued, carbine stocks had a raised grain and generally had a dull finish. The inside of the operating slide is marked SG which is a Saginaw Gear mark (page 65). 94 W. Cochran St., Suite B The muzzle gauges 2.5. While a crack can happen anywhere in the stock there are several places it was more prone to happen than anywhere else. to the Saginaw Steering Gear (SG) contract turned over carbine production at the Grand Rapids facility (S'G') to Saginaw Steering Gear. How long ago? 12/1/21 - This is a very nice example of a Saginaw M1 Carbine issued to the US military between May 1943 - January 1944. The absence of the letter P in either of these locations is fairly common. There are four basic types of markings which may or may not be found on the U.S. Carbine stocks. 4 1/16" (approx.) For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. No specific manufacture dates are listed due to a number of reasons explained on pages 24 to 26 of Scott Duffs book, The M1 Carbine Owners Guide. Also, have bandoliers & stripper clips & sling. S-C [stamped sideways] O-S [in curved type] SI SL [circled] The inside of the operating slide is marked IP which is a Irwin-Pedersen mark (page 65). The stock rates in about Fine overall condition. CARBINE / CAL. We offer a 7 day inspection period and hassle free returns to ensure every customer is happy with whatever they buy from us. Oval sling cut, Low Wood exposes slide. When CMP had a bunch of M1 Carbine for sale that were from Spain or Italy I bought one and it is a Saginaw. departments within Inland over the years of production. No import markings. There are some exceptions to this rule as several prime contractors are known to have utilized parts made for other prime contractors. Also, any indention in the wood at the tip of the stock covered by the barrel band should be examined. The rifle comes with a 15 round magazine. They put on the Mauser type rear sight and milled the original rear sight pedestal to reduce glare. Saginaw Carbines made in the Grand Rapids, Michigan factory are marked SG . Wood being wood, it is subject to cracks. This M1 Carbine is 1 part short of being considered all matching. Overall Condition:This rifle retains about 90% of its metal finish as refinished. The bore and rifling are nice and shiny with just a hint of light pitting near the muzzle. Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. There is a difference. A little history of Saginaw (S'G') and its carbines. The stock is pretty clean and has cartouche markings on it. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Manufacture date shows 9-43 with barrel date 9-43. SG on left side of some receivers, not all. For sale is Inland M1 Carbine ser# 3064171. Sent the OP some pictures of an all S'G' I had listed here last year, didn't get a single request for pictures from members, and asked two questions but had no reply. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's Four of the prime contractors did not have the ability There were 5 basic stock styles for the carbines M1 & M2, with minor variations by manufacturers that often changed over time. Any completed Irwin-Pederson rifles were most likely reassembled and reinspected by Saginaw SG after they took over the contract. I'm sure it's not all original. Dating a carbine by its serial number alone is difficult and not always accurate given the circumstances inherent with manufacturing and the logistics situation If a carbine appears to have all of the proper vintage, correctly coded parts and doesnt seem to have been refinished, the possibility exists that the weapon has been correctly restored. To get better and faster responses and opinions. Most of these marks are light or small. There is a P stamp where it should be. Our Assessment:ThisSaginaw SG M1 Carbine was built sometime between 1942 and 1944 from the remaining parts at the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. barrel channel (top) and refurbished carbines and were not permitted to use rebuild marks. annual growth rings, giving Birch a somewhat dull, uniform appearance. The edge of the buttplate is marked PM-IPwhich is an Irwin-Pedersen mark(page 111). Saginaw SG guns were produced from the remnants of the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. The front sight is marked N which was used by Saginaw SG and Irwin-Pedersen (page 56). on a limited basis prior to the introduction of the M2 stocks but no documentation has been There are some ethical issues involved in restorations, which is another discussion for another time. The sling well is marked RSG which was used bySaginaw SG, Irwin-Pedersen, and Saginaw Gear(page 108 109). I bought it a few years ago from another Calguns member. The barrel is marked "SAGINAW S.G. DIV. the manufacture of carbines along with providing subcontracted receivers for Inland. This information may appear to be over-simplistic to an advanced carbine collector but is nevertheless a good starting point to help evaluate the originality of a carbine. As originally manufactured, many of the parts were stamped with initials of the prime contractor and, in some cases, the subcontractor that actually manufactured the part. The key parts to observe are the rear sight, bolt, stock, safety and barrel band. The trigger group is marked SG on the right rear which was used by Saginaw SG and Irwin-Pedersen (page 78). The quantity of carbines used by their Engineering Section varied so the numbers with each prefix also varied. 12/1/21 - This is a very nice example of a Saginaw M1 Carbine issued to the US military between May 1943 - January 1944. If a stock has the longer barrel channel and thicker wood but is absent the cutout for the The underside of the handguard is marked RSG which was used by Saginaw SG and Saginaw Gear(page 138). Underwood supplied barrels for Saginaw SG (page 50). Manufacture date shows 9-43 with barrel date 9-43. Most of our products are unique. Saginaw SG guns were produced from the remnants of the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand The receiver is marked SG under the wood and uses a wide locking tang. They show light scrapes & areas of discoloration from oxidation. They now sell for $4.50 to $7.00 each. Irwin-Pederson M1 Carbines are RARE. GENERAL MOTORS 12-43. Which Saginaw? Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments There is also on the left side of the stock just aft the trigger guard, a square cartouche stamp with S.A. inside the square and a C stamped inside the square below the S.A. It is a rare M1 Carbine that is 1 part short of being all matching. Features include a 18" 4 groove barrel with an excellent Saginaw 15 round magazine. Location: Upwind of the Giant Plaster Lemon. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. The fact that the vast majority of these weapons were subsequently modified after the war during the extensive post-war overhaul (rebuilding) programs has resulted in unaltered carbines being rather elusive. Overall Condition:This rifle retains about 87% of its metal finish. Lighter colored wood such as birch was often stained darker before being finished. Saginaw Steering Gear Division of General Motors Grand Rapids. Saginaw Steering Gear Division of General Motors Grand Rapids. Many people have reconstructed many carbines with what they believe should have been on the carbine when it left the factory. Click Here to view our Gunbroker page! Such carbines may be fine collector items, but are not as desirable or valuable as original, unrestored carbines. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance requirements. This resulted in an unknown number of "presentation" carbines possibly having the same serial number as the earlier Engineering carbines. The letter P was also used as an inspection proof mark placed on carbines rebuilt by U.S. Army Ordnance. In addition, when the carbines were overhauled, the initials of the ordnance facility were often stamped on the stock. I acquired a Saginaw M1 carbine from a family member this morning. Therefore, if any other carbine has this type of barrel band, it is not all original. All Rights Reserved. Photograph has been reversed to show the appearance of markings that would be produced by the fake stamps. The magazine shows scrapes, thin scratches, and discoloration from oxidation. Sights / Optics:The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. Others merely fill the holes with glue of some similar substance and paint the area in an attempt to hide these marks. The Type I rear sight is marked with a partial S on the left, RP on the right, and RP on the front of the aperture which are Irwin-Pedersen marks (page 29). There is no erosion. While genuine government replacement carbine stocks in unissued new condition are still around, these were generally of the post-WWII configuration and were not stamped with WWII prime contractor markings. part of our network, we sell THEIR guns first whenever possible. barrel channel (bottom), Thinner wood along the right side adjacent the slide on the earlier stocks (top) Because of it's size and weight the M1 carbine became fairly popular with many GI's. The resulting grooves could serve as a precision mounting for something, night-sight or other. The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. Get Guns.com offers and news!! The thin high wood area was eliminated as it was perceived as a weak point. There is minor wear concentrated around the high edges of the receiver. Doing so may alter Model: M1 Carbine Serial Number: 1767065 Year of Manufacture: 1942 to 1944. 7 day inspection period on all website purchases. A number of researchers and authors are present on the forums, helping others and seeking information for various research projects. The markings on the These marking(s) and their location(s) varied based on needs and/or intent. The carbines used for this purpose were not from inventory submitted to or accepted by the government. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our. Rangemasters are here to answer all your questions about our products or process. Year of Manufacture:1942 to 1944. The letter X preceding the serial number But for some reason, buying a gun online can Some enterprising fakers have welded up very deep staking punch marks, ground off the excess and refinished the receiver. PRICE LOWERED BY $500 WAS 5999.99, WARNING! Got 1 ! IP used some Rockola wood at their start up. Over 6 million were made by a number of U.S. companies to assist with the all out war effort. They are a specialty that Stocks with a lighter color were treated with a dark stain, most notably Birch. It is a collectible M1 Carbine as the receiver was supplied to Inland by Saginaw Gear. SOLD - Factory Chrome Walther PPK - Rare. Saginaw Steering Gear in nearby Saginaw, MI was already engaged in the preparation for Is it SAGINAW S.G. or SAGINAW S'G'? The elimination of the bridge strengthening the stock forward of the trigger housing weakened this area making it prone to cracks. Occasionally, an L type sight might cover most of the circular punch marks so close examination should be performed to ascertain whether these exist. Black cherry was approved and saw very limited use. Some stock Should you have any questions regarding markings, members of our forum are the best source for answers. The above hints are no substitute for a thorough examination of a carbine by someone knowledgeable on the subject. marked: AI,SI, JI,or KI(INLAND) M1 Carbine Barrel Band Type 3 (bayonet lug) Used G.I. ): B [circled] (I've seen some cases of 100 that were marked Winchester, but packed with these "B" magazines-- could they be a subcontract from Bridgeport?) Both were Divisions of General Motors. Thank you. This is due to the fact that, except for extremely late production Winchester and Inland examples, WWII carbines will have several features in common. The stocks were also stamped with code markings which are normally found inside of the sling recess on the left side. were available. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. The rear sight is a Type I dual flip up aperture. The same caveat basically holds true for the rotary safety. If these are stamped with bogus, but seemingly proper markings, such stocks could appear to be highly desirable mint original stocks. Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. The new serial number was hand stamped on top of the receiver behind the rear sight, in the vicinity of the prior serial number. No documentation from Ordnance, or any of the prime contractors, has been found that indicates the date and serial number of carbines as they were assembled or when they passed Saginaw Carbines made in the original Saginaw, Michigan factory are marked S.G. or SG. The one and only finish approved for use on the wood of the Caliber .30 Carbine was raw linseed oil. Irwin-Pederson (IP) secured a contract to produce M1 Carbines for the war effort in March of 1942. Please don't Private Message me for Carbine questions. A M1 with high wood is going to bring a high price. I have a Saginaw M1 Carbine. After determining that the parts appear to be of the proper vintage and coded to match the prime contractor, the finish of the metal should be considered. During WWII the only stocks made with Birch were made by Sprague & Carleton Co. of Keene, NH for IBM (SC-B). Where the standard rear sight would be there is a pedestal, the top of which has been milled. Such markings can be sanded off by someone wishing to remove such evidence so any sanded areas make the stock suspect. Bore Condition:The bore is bright; semi bright at the muzzle. for use with a select fire mechanism. This bridge was eliminated with all M2 stocks and removed from earlier stocks later converted There are 2 separate Saginaw Gear manufacturers. Numbers were issued sequentially, beginning where One manufacturer separated out smaller blocks of serial numbers for use by subcontractors who would use these of 0.3. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. Here is one for you. There are a variety of reasons things may have been changed or simply ignored. It has a high wood stock and the serial number is in the 3.3 mils. Barrel Date: September, 1943, Action Type:Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. .. Swivels: Unmarked -Underwood: Didn't mark them. The trigger group is a type two pattern with the upright Inland markings on Irwin-Pedersendid not produce barrels. Questions should be posted in the appropriate forum. There is a light import mark on the right side of the barrel. would be used for the U.S. Carbine Models M1 or M1A1, and some of the M2's, were made well after the receiver was completed as all of these models used the same receiver. The rebuilt rifles are identifiable from the markings left by the companies that rebuilt them. had passed inspection. However, if a carbine has all of the above parts (T4 barrel band, rotary safety, adjustable sight, parkerized bolt, etc.) Excellent overall condition. Is any of this "original" or a product of a couple rebuilds? rebuilt from spare parts. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. The barrel flat is marked with a flaming bomb. There is virtually no color distinction between No matter what you hunt, or what type of gun you prefer to hunt with, Guns.com offers options for everyone. then allowed to dry. their historical value. subcontractors, suppliers, members of the military or government, and others to show appreciation for their assistance and cooperation Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. Top: M1 stock with no cutout for selector switchBottom: Cutout for M2 selector switch inside the left side of the stock. I've had this M1 Carbine for about 20-years. 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